obama works with a stiletto. it is a darker art. >> it is like where bob woodward says the terrible republicans are going to cut medicare and then woodward says barack obama says we have to cut medicare. we look at the 20 whoppers. what is the top obama whopper? >> i think what he says more than anything else that for example that romney was theorig original outsourcer of jobs at bain. that was a powerful message on the campaign trail. >> what about romney? what is romney's? >> he says if things continue we'll no longer have a free market economy. that is kind of hard to believe. >> a bit of an overstatement. >> voters want to believe these things especially on right and left. even when you present the facts to them they don't actually -- >> so tonight we have the back and forth on the facts. let's talk about the debate tonight. what does mitt romney have to do not just to win over the conservatives and get them excited but what conservative message does he have to give to the american people that will get the sw